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Old 11-04-2005, 05:36 AM   #1
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Making A Backing, Mini Guide


Hi guys, i thought i would post a mini guide to making backing tracks,
this is by no means a 100% guide of everything, but more mini guide to general construction, and some pointers.

Alot of you will know things like this already but here it go's

Drums:
Lets start with drums, these are the back bone of your song, good sounding drums r the difference between
a good track and a great track (same with most instruments) but the drums control the overall feel
of the track, by altering the patten (to make it less robotic) changing the volume of the snares, hats, crashes, you can create a vast array of different sounds.

Here's a example, this simple drum patten might be the drum beat your after,
but it sounds very simple:
Simple-Drum

This next example adds hi-hat's to it, which improves it:
Simple-Drum-With-Hats
This final example has a more flexible drum pattern, but its still basically what you hear above, only more interesting:
Full-Drum

Here's the same type of exercise but with a fast drum pattern:
Fast-Drum
Fast-Drum-Hi-Hat
Fast-Drum-Full

Now lets look at Drum rolls, weather you use them or not, its handy to know how, since you can put small drum rolls at the end of a verse in a song etc, they r very effective when made correctly.

Here is a basic drum roll, using only 1 snare sound:
Basic-Roll
As you can probably hear, it just about does the job, but not brillant,
here's where a decent drum kit comes.
For a decent drum roll you need two almost identical drum snares, they just need to be slightly different to create the right effect, this next example is using 2 snares, every other hit is the second snare:
Improved-Roll
This type of drum roll is far more effective then a single snare sound, so remember to experiment.

Remember drumming, like playing any instrument is about playing well, and interestingly, the more effort you put into the drumming the better it will sound.

Things like Crashes, Toms, Hit-Hats, Cymbols can all add to the effect, so experiment, and see what works, its really that simple .

Check this thread for more infomation about sound fonts and links to some good sites with drum kits:
http://www.guitars101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30190

Bass:
other then Drums, Bass is the most important component of a song, ridged bass lines can be the back bone of a song, but there is no need to make these wooden either.
Here's two different ways of doing the bass for the same piece of music:
Bass-Simple
Bass-Enhanced

The bass rings through the song, which makes it very important to changing the feel of a song, here's two more examples of the bass changing the feel.
First no change in the bass, which isn't wrong, but it shows how different the change effects the feel of the song, but both work for different effects.
Bass-No-Change

This is the same piece which some bass changing, again this isn't the correct way to do it, there is no right or wrong way, only different ways, but see the diference:
Bass-Change

So once again, experiement, when covering someone else's song, you might be limited to the kind of patterns they used (to a certain extent), on original piece's, you can do anything you want though.

Thats about it really for the bare bones backing, the other kind of instruments you use will depend alot on what your doing, but try to treat them like a real instrument, play them (via the sequencer) as they would normallay be played, and if you don't know how, look into it, its amazing what a search engine can find when it comes to learning

With regards to sequencers and other equipment, this is mainly down to budget and personal preference, i use Computer Muzys (which is free on the cover disk of Computer Music magazine in the UK, possiblily else where too), all my instruments are either free sound fonts, free VST Instruments and effects.

So look about, there are many links in these forums to alsorts of programs.

I hope this mini guide has been of some use
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:42 AM   #2
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:45 AM   #3
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Old 11-04-2005, 07:40 AM   #4
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Hey, good stuff man. Thanx for taking the time out to do this
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:38 AM   #5
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Np's m8, hope its of some use to everyone
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:32 AM   #6
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Old 11-05-2005, 08:13 AM   #7
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Can't ever have too much information. Thanks.
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Old 11-06-2005, 10:14 AM   #8
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Old 11-18-2005, 11:41 AM   #9
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Programing drums is a nightmare isn't it? I mean it could be like playing guitar the more you play the better you get.I don't really want to start programing drums because it would take time away from practise for me.
Does it get easyer as you get better?I'm trying to play riff's but trying to work out drum rolls is a different matter.I'm not that computer minded to begin with. Is there a way around it? Or a program that can make it dead simple? The thing is the music I'm into can be quite complex drum wise as you guys can imagine.

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Old 11-19-2005, 03:52 AM   #10
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Once you get the hang of it, its not to bad really.

I always try to make my Tracks in blocks, like the drum sections above i made r all 4 beats to a block (i usually count the snare's per block), once you have this made, you can copy and paste it to extend a song by 4 beats, once pasted, u can duplicate the new block and alter it slightly to make different version of the same basic part (to create a difference throughout the song).
Here's a picture of my Sequencer with Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming loaded, this is zoomed in, those blocks r about a 20th of the entire song, but you can see how i've built it in blocks.

Now here's a picture of the drum Sequencing inside Drum-Verse-1.

Most of the song is built on that drum pattern with small alterations to make the song sound less robotic and more like a actual performence.

Here's a picture of the Bass Sequencing inside Bass-Verse-2:

Again, its quite a simple layout but its used throughout the song with slight modifications.
Making tracks isn't that tricky, but when you first start sometimes things work, other times they don't, my first ever BT was Friends by Satriani, and it was dreadful (glad i never posted it looking back hehe), but as you get more confident in your skills, with better instruments then i had to start with, and practically nothing spent on setting up to make them (cus i'd built the computer ages ago anyway ), you will get good at it, and its not like learning a proper instrument, its a far quicker process.
If you can get your hands on Computer Music magazine (which comes with Computer Muzys) thats a very good place to start, as is any decent Sequncer really.
Once you get used to your surroundings, its quite easy, tracks with drums and bass take me maybe 5 hours max to make from beginning to end atm, if its a long track (like "Searching" was) abit more, tracks with organ, keyboards sometimes 8 hours (if there tricky).

As for the actual construction, i mostly have the original on my computer, play it alongside the backing to match the BPM, then listen and recreate the drums and bass from what i hear, trying to keep all parts in sections as above.
If you have the sheet music (and can read it) obviously this helps too, but if u have a good ear you can get by quite nicely by just creating what you hear.

If you need any help, im always about m8, hope this helps
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this is very good advice and i know it works because you do a great job on your backing tracks. it is much appreciated
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:57 AM   #12
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this is very good advice and i know it works because you do a great job on your backing tracks. it is much appreciated
And so are your kind words, thx
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I am soooooooooooooooo glad people like you are willing to share your time and know-how!!!!! I've been relying on Hal Leonard Publishing or the magazines to supply my BT needs. It kinda bites being at the mercy of luck (maybe they'll do my song, maybe not). NOW...... I actually think I might be able to create my own I've gotta a lot to learn, but it at least it's a start. THANK YOU
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Thats one of the greatest parts of being able to make BT's, when you think "i love that song, i want to play it" and you can just go make the BT.
Its almost as good as having your own band on call (with out some of the ear ache lol).
Good luck on your journey
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