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Old 06-24-2003, 04:56 PM   #1
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Operation Solid State: Day 2


I'm am trying desperately to get a good sound out of my solid state amp in a recording. This is my first result. Tell me what you think. If you're familiar with Slayer's song Bloodline, you'll recognize this. It's the first 50 seconds.

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Old 06-24-2003, 05:14 PM   #2
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Re: Operation Solid State: Day 2


I have a hard time really hearing your tone, probably because of the low resolution of your recording.
Overall is sounds very crunchy, not bad at all, but as I said, it's hard for me to really make a call on it.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:40 PM   #3
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Re: Operation Solid State: Day 2


I agree, it sounds good but I can barely hear it. Can you beef up the volume in the mix?
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Old 06-24-2003, 06:19 PM   #4
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Re: Operation Solid State: Day 2


Thanks for the feedback.

Do you mean the volume of the guitars or the entire mix?
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Old 06-24-2003, 06:24 PM   #5
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The entire mix if you are able to.
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Old 06-24-2003, 06:33 PM   #6
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Done! That's the best I can do without it breaking up, but I think I beefed it up quite a bit.

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Old 06-24-2003, 06:38 PM   #7
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Re: Operation Solid State: Day 2


Much better man, that tune is good and heavy and I think the tone is good and beefy for a solid state amp [img]images/smilies/icon_thumb.gif[/img]
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Old 06-24-2003, 07:15 PM   #8
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Cool beans, thanks man!

That's one sortie in Operation Solid State down. Next step is fixing the acoustics in my room. I distance mic'ed the amp and I think it was a bad idea in the end. The guitar seems to have a way too spacious, roomy sound.
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Re: Operation Solid State: Day 2


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Cool beans, thanks man!

That's one sortie in Operation Solid State down. Next step is fixing the acoustics in my room. I distance mic'ed the amp and I think it was a bad idea in the end. The guitar seems to have a way too spacious, roomy sound.

[/ QUOTE ]

This time around, it sounds much better.
Your tone is good.
Try recording your amp inside a closet filled with clothes. That's where a friend of mine recorded an entire accoustic album he produced at home, and the result sounded really pro.
Operation Solid State is kicking ass! [img]images/smilies/icon_jam.gif[/img]
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Old 06-25-2003, 10:55 AM   #10
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Wow, that's a really good idea! Props to your friend if he thought that one up himself.

While I don't see myself packing a full stack into my closet any time soon, that did give me a few new ideas.
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Since the recording was done as dry as possible, there was no unwanted reverb.
He later added reverb with ProTools, but only what he needed....

Good luck!
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Re: Operation Solid State: Day 2


The 2nd version was better beefied!!

I'm only familiar with the older slayer stuff, but you brought a point of recognition.

Production: I hear some level of noise (like a tape-deck playing) and at the end it sounds like the mix is a bit clipping. Try to cut away empty parts of tracks to keep the noise as low as possible.

You did good rhythms together with the drumm. And a good tone for this music!
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:09 PM   #13
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I think the level of noise was because I distance mic'd it. Both guitar tracks came through with what you're hearing. I don't think I pushed the signal above the noise floor. I had my mic preamp cranked pretty hard.

The end of the mix is clipping. That's what happened after I raised the volume of the mix. I think I need to run it through a compressor.

Thanks for the input!
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Re: Operation Solid State: Day 2


i don't know the song , but man is that heavy ! ,

i'll be perfectly honest with you , when i heard the start i didn't really like your tone (Sorry) .. but when the drums kicked in you were spot on with the timing .. and your sound was huge! .. i was really impressed

made me wanna crank my amp up and tune down to drop D !
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Old 06-26-2003, 06:37 AM   #15
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I didn't really like the tone either, which had me very surprised by the positive feedback I got about it, but I tend to be over-critical of my recordings.

Thanks for the compliment about the timing. I double tracked both channels (four guitar tracks) so the timing was a nightmare. Don't be too impressed, though. If you could take the guitar tracks out and listen to them really loud, you would hear *ding*...*ding*...*ding*...*ding* through the whole intro. I edited the metronome out of the drum track in the final mix.

That huge sound is because of the bass. I hooked my guitar up through a Whammy pedal, dropped it an octave, plugged into a compressor so I wouldn't get that loud crack when I hit the string, then into my computer. I stood there thinking, "Is this really necessary? Do I need to record the fake bass for such a simple track? What difference will it make."

So, I cued up my recording and played with it... then I picked my jaw up off the floor and proceeded to record the bass part.
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