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3fingers · 06-07-2005, 08:39 PM

Just installed it and am checking my favorite website tonight as a beta test.
I know many of you have it already. I am not an "early adopter" of technology. I usually want to know it's good enuff...before i plug it into my main PC...but so far..this thing is FAST!!

What do you guys think of it?

Thanks!

El_jalepeno · 06-07-2005, 08:53 PM

Well, I do a lot with Microsoft tools such as XML spreadsheets and so on, and Firefox can't use any of it...

**VanMan2000** · 06-07-2005, 09:06 PM

I came in here expecting a cool thread about that old tv show with Jan Michael Vincent on it. What a bunch of techno-geeks, LOL!

**Riff Addict** · 06-08-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VanMan2000

I came in here expecting a cool thread about that old tv show with Jan Michael Vincent on it. What a bunch of techno-geeks, LOL!

FireFox and Knight Rider..now thats quality TV.

**KC_ArtRocker** · 06-08-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VanMan2000

I came in here expecting a cool thread about that old tv show with Jan Michael Vincent on it. What a bunch of techno-geeks, LOL!

Actually I think you are referring to Air Wolf (which, BTW, the theme song is on my list of songs to cover. It was originally done by Jan Hammer). Firefox was the early 80s movie with Clint Eastwood where the pilots could control thier F14 planes by using thought command. But yeah, me too. I was expecting discussion of a movie. I'm not all together sure what Firefox is at all.

MattM · 06-08-2005, 06:36 PM

i used it once and liked it. but went back to IE. on dl's IE has auto resume, while i dont think firefox did. but it keeps a record of everything you dled.

silverklyph · 06-16-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kc_artist_rocker

Actually I think you are referring to Air Wolf (which, BTW, the theme song is on my list of songs to cover. It was originally done by Jan Hammer). Firefox was the early 80s movie with Clint Eastwood where the pilots could control thier F14 planes by using thought command. But yeah, me too. I was expecting discussion of a movie. I'm not all together sure what Firefox is at all.

Firefox is a web browser developed by Mozilla. It is similar, in function at least, to Internet Explorer. It has a lot of advanced features and a little more control over certain things. I believe Netscape went open source at some point, and Firefox was built on top of that. More info about it is here.

Lazerjeebs · 06-16-2005, 12:15 PM

I've been using Mozilla Firefox for about a year now and absolutely love it! I just started using the Thunderbird email program a few months ago, and it's been very good as well.

I've cut out almost all the pop-ups and spyware problems I was having before I switched to Firefox.

I highly recommend it to everyone!

**nroberts** · 06-16-2005, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by silverklyph

Firefox is a web browser developed by Mozilla. It is similar, in function at least, to Internet Explorer. It has a lot of advanced features and a little more control over certain things. I believe Netscape went open source at some point, and Firefox was built on top of that. More info about it is here.

Yes, netscape went open source sometime around v6. I believe v6 was actually the first to be based on the open source additions.

I disagree though that it is similar to IE. In fact that is the whole point. For one it has features not available in IE (like tabbed browsing) and more importantly it isn't so highly integrated into the OS and so flaws in it don't open your system up to attack; whoever thought it was a briliant idea to integrate a web browser into the OS was just silly. It also allows easier access and higher control over javascript settings. The debug console is also pretty cool for web developers...I wish something like that was in IE.

On the surface though it is just a web browser like IE is so it that way they are similar, but there are quite a few differences that some people (myself included of course) think make it better.

ericgtr · 06-07-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by El_jalepeno

Well, I do a lot with Microsoft tools such as XML spreadsheets and so on, and Firefox can't use any of it...

Just because MS developed xml (or other apps) won't render right in firefox isn't necessarily their fault. Firefox is probably the most compliant browser when it comes to comforming to WC3 standards, which is the basis for all of it.

I personally only use Firefox so I can have another browser to test with but one thing they don't do is deliberately make standards non-compliant and that's respecable IMO.

3fingers · 06-07-2005, 09:44 PM

Damn...so far in the first hour of beta testing..."long live open source" !!
(Toast you are hillarious bro!!! Miss your input for sure!!) Don't remember much of that TV show...but it sounds familiar...i do remember "The Rat Patrol" though....those jeep dudes would take on tanks...bad ass man!!

FireFox seems groovy. Thanks guys!

El_jalepeno · 06-08-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

Just because MS developed xml (or other apps) won't render right in firefox isn't necessarily their fault. Firefox is probably the most compliant browser when it comes to comforming to WC3 standards, which is the basis for all of it.

I personally only use Firefox so I can have another browser to test with but one thing they don't do is deliberately make standards non-compliant and that's respecable IMO.

Not blaming anyone, but looking for other apps that utilize XML or can at least generate functional spreadsheets is what was the challenge for us. I work with quite a few Java and Flex developers who won't use anything but Firefox and Thunderbird for email. And they aren't interested in recreating the tools we need to manage the projects through web based tools. To buy the tools that we can already create through Microsoft enhances our productivity becuase we don't have to code or spend additional funds.

And open source is nice, but still a productive challenge. Consider a java app utilizing Hibernate. Developers may be inclined to have the DAO layer call to the Hibernate layer because they are accustomed to doing so, but not fully realizing there is no need for the DAO layer. Additionally, the DTO layer can be completely eliminated, which would eliminate the facade layer as well, only if the developer building his open source tools knows that he can do this and doesn't do it becuase he can. Calls to the Service Layer can be through Spring Remoting.

So in closing, open source is nice however many, and not always the case, packages already can be used and the need for open source and developing your own set of tools has already been established.

But I digress. Viva Citizen Gates!

**Mondy** · 06-08-2005, 01:51 PM

I like it because it is more secure than Explorer and since using it, I haven't been hit by much spyware at all...

There are only a few websites that I cannot use, but on the whole, Firefox is far superior as far as I am concerned !

ericgtr · 06-08-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by El_jalepeno

Not blaming anyone, but looking for other apps that utilize XML or can at least generate functional spreadsheets is what was the challenge for us. I work with quite a few Java and Flex developers who won't use anything but Firefox and Thunderbird for email. And they aren't interested in recreating the tools we need to manage the projects through web based tools. To buy the tools that we can already create through Microsoft enhances our productivity becuase we don't have to code or spend additional funds.

And open source is nice, but still a productive challenge. Consider a java app utilizing Hibernate. Developers may be inclined to have the DAO layer call to the Hibernate layer because they are accustomed to doing so, but not fully realizing there is no need for the DAO layer. Additionally, the DTO layer can be completely eliminated, which would eliminate the facade layer as well, only if the developer building his open source tools knows that he can do this and doesn't do it becuase he can. Calls to the Service Layer can be through Spring Remoting.

So in closing, open source is nice however many, and not always the case, packages already can be used and the need for open source and developing your own set of tools has already been established.

But I digress. Viva Citizen Gates!

True and MS can't be blamed for incorporating all their apps together to create a streamlined environment for developers. There is no reason anyone else can't do it either.

El_jalepeno · 06-08-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

True and MS can't be blamed for incorporating all their apps together to create a streamlined environment for developers. There is no reason anyone else can't do it either.

I think we are arguing the same side