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Old 07-22-2005, 09:40 PM   #1
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The new faces of war - "Unrestricted" and "Fourth Generation" Warfare


I have been doing some "research" on the net concerning terrorism and related subjects, and I have found a couple of topics that are really interesting / scarry. One is a concept known as Fourth Generation Warfare, and the other is Unrestricted Warfare. Here's some info:

From the Marine Corp Gazette - 1989
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"Fourth generation warfare's goal is collapsing the enemy internally rather than physically destroying him. Targets will include such things as the population's support for the war and the enemy's culture. Correct identification of enemy strategic centers of gravity will be highly important.

In broad terms, fourth generation warfare seems likely to be widely dispersed and largely undefined; the distinction between war and peace will be blurred to the vanishing point. It will be nonlinear, possibly to the point of having no definable battlefields or fronts.

The distinction between "civilian" and "military" may disappear. Actions will occur concurrently throughout all participants' depth, including their society as a cultural, not just a physical, entity. Major military facilities, such as airfields, fixed communications sites, and large headquarters will become rarities because of their vulnerability; the same may be true of civilian equivalents, such as seats of government, power plants, and industrial sites (including knowledge as well as manufacturing industries)."




The entire article is HERE.





The other topic, Unrestricted Warfare is the title of a short book that was written by two Colonels of the PLA. (China - Peoples Liberation Army) This document basicly examines American culture and technology and describes how weaknesses in our system can be utilized to wage unrestricted warfare against the US based on these principles. This is very closely related to the Fourth Generation topic discussed above. Click HERE to read the document - it's rather "enlightening" to say the least.


Here is a summary from Unrestricted Warfare:

The following selections are taken from "Unrestricted Warfare," a book published in China in February 1999 which proposes tactics for developing countries, in particular China, to compensate for their military inferiority vis-à-vis the United States during a high-tech war. The selections include the table of contents, preface, afterword, and biographical information about the authors printed on the cover. The book was written by two PLA senior colonels from the younger generation of Chinese military officers and was published by the PLA Literature and Arts Publishing House in Beijing, suggesting that its release was endorsed by at least some elements of the PLA leadership. This impression was reinforced by an interview with Qiao and laudatory review of the book carried by the party youth league's official daily Zhongguo Qingnian Bao on 28 June. Published prior to the bombing of China's embassy in Belgrade, the book has recently drawn the attention of both the Chinese and Western press for its advocacy of a multitude of means, both military and particularly non-military, to strike at the United States during times of conflict. Hacking into websites, targeting financial institutions, terrorism, using the media, and conducting urban warfare are among the methods proposed. In the Zhongguo Qingnian Bao interview, Qiao was quoted as stating that "the first rule of unrestricted warfare is that there are no rules, with nothing forbidden." Elaborating on this idea, he asserted that strong countries would not use the same approach against weak countries because "strong countries make the rules while rising ones break them and exploit loopholes . . .The United States breaks [UN rules] and makes new ones when these rules don't suit [its purposes], but it has to observe its own rules or the whole world will not trust it."


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Old 07-22-2005, 10:12 PM   #2
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I've got the solution for all this haneous shit. It's really just an extension of previously advocated 'solutions' but I think the end result of mine would be ultimately more productive.

LAUNCH EVERYTHING.

The Russians will of course respond with whatever they have that still works and the whole world will burn. Even if they don't the effects will be world wide anyway. Within short time the Earth will enter a deep freeze of nuclear winter. When the world finally thaws all the humans everywhere will be fucking dead. Slam dunk, no more terrorist threat and no more comming up with new and more repugnant ways to wage war. If the best thing we can do with this world is kill each other I say let the insects have it.

Ok, I am joking but I really am getting pretty pissed off and annoyed at the entire planet.

Either that or we take every leader of the world along with every revolutionary and/or terrorist and we have the biggest cage fight tournament in history. Hell, I'll join in and kick all their fucking asses although most of them are likely to actually be total pussies so it might not be much fun...I mean what would Osama or Bush do, preach to me? Osama has got to be the pussiest looking fucker I've ever seen; without those dumb assholes with bombs what is he? I'll take them both at once...I'll pick up Osama by the feet and use him to bash Bush bloody. I'll just kick Blair in the balls and shove my knee up his nose....but I'll teabag Cheney....or maybe I'll shove Rumsfield up his ass head first.
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Old 07-23-2005, 02:39 AM   #3
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Thats a very scary scenario , i think the world is definatly a more dangerous place . I feel as tho i dont want to go abroad , i feel as tho i must stay put in England and protect my nearest and dearest . People are more wary of Muslims now . where i live thankfully we dont have many , but i can see Manchester going up very shorlty . The English are not going to take this without retaliating at some stage . I dont want to see ethnic cleansing ever ! but i can understand how this evil ideology manifests itself . Once we start stopping and searching Muslims , things may get very nasty .
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Old 07-23-2005, 11:14 AM   #4
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Welcome to the New World (dis)Order.

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