Question about playing live

frozenfury · 10-04-2004, 01:44 PM

I’m not sure where to post this so I will post it here. Ok, I have always wondered how in the hell someone can stand right next to a wall of stacks and not have hearing damage ? Or how they don’t have a heart attack, when I was watching Live Right Here Right Now. Michael Anthony is standing right next to his speakers….. Wouldn’t that give you heart problems? Anyone that has been to a concert knows how loud it is. That’s my stupid question. lol

wahwah · 10-04-2004, 01:45 PM

Pardon? [img]images/smilies/icon_lol.gif[/img]

frozenfury · 10-04-2004, 01:47 PM

LMAO took me awhile to get that lololol [img]images/smilies/icon_lol.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/wutblau.gif[/img]

sgstd · 10-04-2004, 01:47 PM

Huh?? Speak up!!! [img]images/smilies/icon_lol.gif[/img]

**Evhmoon** · 10-04-2004, 01:48 PM

most bands where ear plugs obviously.. but some bands dont have the top stacks wired... more for show. there are a handfull of guitarist though who do. Like Zakk Wylde , Mick Mars to name a few...they just love it fuckin loud... I know michael anthony said loves is soo loud he can feel his tooth fillings shake..

wahwah · 10-04-2004, 01:48 PM

Sorry, couldn't resist it! Certainly some muso's (Pete Townsend notably) have had permanent damage but we still keep on. These days a lot of rockers where custom made ear plugs in the hope that this will stop the hearing deteriorating. Back in the days, I used a couple of stacks but my hearing is still good...luck, more than anything I think. Heart problems tho?! You'd need to be playing thru an awful lot of gear to bring that on! And don't forget, just because you can see all that gear doesn't mean it's all plugged in! [img]images/smilies/icon_thumb.gif[/img]

TopJimmy78 · 10-04-2004, 01:48 PM

What was that again FF? Your gonna have to speak up lol [img]images/smilies/icon_lol.gif[/img]

frozenfury · 10-04-2004, 01:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Evhmoon said: he can feel his tooth fillings shake..

[/ QUOTE ]holy shit lol, yeah I know they wear ear plugs but at that distance it really wouldn't do you no good right?

**marfish** · 10-04-2004, 01:53 PM

Just because there's 15 bass/guitar cabs onstage, don't think for a second that all of them are being used. That's all eye candy. And for the most part, the one's that are being used, are the low one's on the floor, not aimed at ear level. Believe it or not, ALOT of hearing loss for musicians is associated with Cymbals. In rehearsal, they're almost always at ear level.

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**Riff Addict** · 10-04-2004, 03:31 PM

I played live for years with my Crate stack behind me cranked with the singers P.A. right behind my head and yes, I have sustained some hearing loss. I don't guess cruising around in my car for years with the Metal cranked has anything to do with it? [img]images/smilies/whistling2.gif[/img]

**skydog911** · 10-04-2004, 04:18 PM

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Riff Addict said:
I don't guess cruising around in my car for years with the Metal cranked has anything to do with it? [img]images/smilies/whistling2.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]......mmmm it just might [img]images/smilies/icon_lol.gif[/img]

serriously tho....I've got some hearing loss as well from years of playing standing in front of a stack.....but what the hell tho..we live but once

VB · 10-04-2004, 04:41 PM

On a serious note. I can verify about speaker cabs causing heart probs. I am a heart patient (quad bypass) with a lot of muscle loss. I dont get near a bass cab thats anywhere near cranked. It can alter your heartbeat(firsthand knowledge) and cause considerable pain to anything loose in your body. As far as hearing protection. WEAR IT. And yes. most of the cabs are simply there for eye candy, Kiss was an innovator in a stage full of empty cabinets . Mic everything you can through the PA and use your amp as a monitor. If your bass player insists on cabs that restructure your heart rythm make him put to the side or out front. Most places are so small your ass is blocking 90% of your sound and a top cab simply splits whatever you have left of a brain. If your having probs with floors sucking up your sound, elevate your cabinet with milk crates or some kind of stand.

3fingers · 10-04-2004, 04:49 PM

I would agree the cymbals in a small environment kills the ears!! and "feedback" like when the top high-freq horn squeals!!!!
holy mackeral...makes me become faint!!! If i ever run both cabs and the head....they are side by side configuration...easier to deal with...but that's very very rare..and the only way I can tell hearing damage has occured is when i see a band and my ears ring for 2 or 3 days afterwards....

**VHF** · 10-04-2004, 05:11 PM

Generally it's not as loud on stage as you think....because you are hearing the PA cranked. However I remember back in the early VH days Ed's amps were not "eye candy" and they were really cranked loud. I was in a big indoor arena during the WACF tour and the PA blew a breaker and completely shut down....but Ed's amps were still on and they were F'ing LOUD. I don't think his amps were really even mic'd.

If I played professionally today, I would wear "in-ear-monitors" and save my hearing.

frozenfury · 10-04-2004, 05:56 PM

Wow good stuff. I remember reading an intrview from Wolf Hoffmann of 'Accept' he said when he was on tour opening for ACDC they had alot of empty "shells" so Accept did the same thing lol.