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Old 12-10-2003, 07:35 AM   #1
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Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


ok..on my little peavey backstage practice amp I can hit ed screams and tapp and play regular harmonic all day long...they come out crystal clear and are easy to hit..now when i go to my half stack i have sooo much trouble hittin screams and tappin harmonics out..and it also seems playing regular harmonics don't ring out as easy and full...so this has to be a tone problem..its all on same guitar..now question is what is the problem..reverb? mid's? highs or lows? HELP? [img]images/smilies/dunno.gif[/img]
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:15 AM   #2
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


Could be a couple things. Your amp may need to be re-biased and your not getting enough electrical current through or your tube amp isn't being driven enough. Try a boost of some type in front of it. Go to a local shop and plug one into the front of your amp and see if it helps.
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:16 AM   #3
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


I have an Marshall AVT 50 watt head with everything opn 10 and it works fine for me [img]images/smilies/icon_thumb.gif[/img] What kind of half stack are you running through? You may also try rolling off the treble to about half way and crank the mids and see what happens. The easiest way for each individual to find the exact tone they are looking for through the amp is to put everything halfway, then slowly move forward and back on the treb, bass, mid, and distortion until you find what you are hearing in your head [img]images/smilies/icon_thumb.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/rock.gif[/img] That's why I just keep everything on 10! [img]images/smilies/woot.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/icon_dance.gif[/img]
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Old 12-10-2003, 10:54 AM   #4
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


i'm running a peavey transtube supreme head...see on my practice amp the one I can do all the stuff i'm talking about, the highs and mid are about half way..but on the stack its like mids are at like 3 and highs are at like 7 ..
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Old 12-10-2003, 10:59 AM   #5
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


I don't want to sound like a smartass or anything, but have you tried different EQ settings on your big amp?

I mean if you have any decent amount of overdrive with this amp, I don't see why it wouldn't transmit the harmonics and squeals that you are playing...
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Old 12-10-2003, 02:21 PM   #6
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


A transtube is one of those modeling amps right? You might have a compressor. Turn that up. Maybe something is wrong with your amp. I had a friend who had a JMP-1 preamp and when I played it I thought it sucked really bad. I couldn't believe Marshall put something like that out. Then I heard another about a year later and it rocked. So , maybe something isn't right in it.
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Old 12-11-2003, 05:28 AM   #7
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


yeah i checked the EQ settings a few times..and as far as compressor goes , how would I know if it does..is there a differnt name for it..lol..not to found of this peavey head..lol..
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:20 AM   #8
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


If there's a built-in noise gate on your amp turn it off and see if it sounds better.
Also play with presence if it applies.
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Old 12-11-2003, 11:31 AM   #9
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


no clue on whats wrong..guess i'm just gonna have to deal with it for now..thanks guys for all your help..you guys can close this thread if you like
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Old 12-11-2003, 11:42 AM   #10
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Sorry it's still not working for you dude, still may get some good feedback though so we'll let this thread die out on it's own.
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Old 12-11-2003, 01:52 PM   #11
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Re: Tone problems someone who knows about tone and heads and amps Help?


ok..finally figured it out...I have a digitech rp50 pedal..and i use this pedal for this little practice amp..so I started thinking maybe its the pedal and the setting its on..so I hooked it up throught the half stack and sure enough screams were coming out easier and tapping harmonics were easier..but it had a terrible loud distortion sound cause instead of 40 watts it was now running through 100 watts...so now i just have to figure out a the same setting but to fit the half stack..but yeah thanks again guys for your comments and help..[img]images/smilies/icon_thumb.gif[/img]
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Same problem with one Vetta


I get the same problem with my Line 6 Vetta II when I go from clean sounds to heavy ones, even if I have the distorted sounds at half volume. There's a physics theory I can't remember the name of that shows how the highs and lows fall off as you go up in volume. i.e., when we perfect the balance in a solo environment it's fine, when we turn it up with the band and go into a lead, we disappear. I'm working on re-eq'ing the lead sounds with the band now, and it's been working so far. If I can find the name of the theory, I'll post another reply. Good luck!
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