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Old 12-02-2003, 03:38 PM   #1
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The latest on the Sammy rumor.


This was posted at the vhml. Sound like it could be true.
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As with all Van Halen rumors, this needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but the following has been confirmed by a fairly reliable source within the Van Halen "inner circle".

- The Sammy Hagar press release is true. Hagar visited with "5150" producer and Foreigner guitarist Mick Jones in August. Jones told Hagar that he had recently spoken with Alex Van Halen, and that Alex sent his regards. Jones gave Hagar Alex's number and encouraged him to give Alex a call. Sammy did, and the two exchanged pleasantries. In September, Sammy spent an afternoon and evening with Alex. Eddie Van Halen was contacted by the two, but was busy with his son, but promised to call Hagar soon. Hagar and Eddie have spoken on the phone regularly during the month of October.

- During this time, Alex, Eddie and Hagar discussed the status of their back catalog with Warner Brothers (which is undergoing a change in ownership). Alex apparently was very concerned that the new owners would look to "cash in" on the Van Halen catalog by issuing "Best Ofs" and sticking the songs on compilations. Hagar, having lived with Capitol Records constantly repackaging his old material, agreed. Since Van Halen is without any management, Hagar suggested that his manager, Irving Azoff, be allowed to handle any ideas or proposals Warner Brothers had for the back catalog. The Van Halen brothers agreed, and if Warner Brothers is going to release any Van Halen material, they will have to go through Azoff.

- There HAVE been discussions about reforming the Van Hagar lineup. These discussions mostly revolve around the desire to release "Between The Two Of Us" which has also been called "Between Us Two". Originally recorded during the Balance sessions, and recorded again during what would become the tracks for the Twister soundtrack, the song has been described as "Dreams meets Unchained" and several feel is is the best Van Hagar collaboration ever.

- HOWEVER, there is a lot to still be discussed. Sammy Hagar does not want to disband his solo group, the Waboritas, and has made it clear that if he were to rejoin Van Halen, he would want to be able to continue to record and tour with them. Surprisingly, Eddie Van Halen has no problems with this, and has suggested a "Genesis" type of situation, where the group will do an album-tour cycle, then take an extended break to pursue other projects. Eddie does not want to get locked into a contract with a record company for anything more than a single album release, and wants to be able to work on other non-"Van Halen" projects.

- Neither Hagar nor the Van Halen brothers want to tour without new material.

- Alex Van Halen does not want to tour excessively, and does not want to tour outside North America, with the exception of "one ofs" for major shows internationally.

- There is still bad blood between Hagar's road crew, which is primarily made up of former members of Van Halen's road crew that were unceremoniously dumped by Van Halen during the time that Ray Danniels managed the group, and the Van Halen brothers.

- Michael Anthony has been in contact with the Van Halen brothers, and it is understood (although it is not clear who created this "understanding") that he will be involved in any "Van Halen" projects, but will not be involved in Eddie's other plans (Eddie has taken to playing all instruments himself while working during the last three years). Alex Van Halen did not have any problems with Michael Anthony playing on Sammy Hagar's shows, but asked him not to play with David Lee Roth, as there is still ill-feelings regarding an attempt to work with Roth in 2000.

- A ridiculous number of bands and management companies, including representatives for KISS, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi and others have contacted Azoff about the possibility of creating a co-headlining stadium/arena tour. Azoff has made it clear that you cannot have a tour with a group does not exist.
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Old 12-02-2003, 03:44 PM   #2
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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


Interesting, so this came from a radio station in NY eh?
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Old 12-02-2003, 03:48 PM   #3
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Interesting, so this came from a radio station in NY eh?

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Apparently so Eric. That's what the original poster stated. It seems to fit in with what Sam said in his official statement. I don't know that I like the idea of extended waits between albums but I'll take waht I can get if any of this actually happens.
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Old 12-02-2003, 03:50 PM   #4
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I am all for just doing an album at a time with a little bit of touring, this way they keep their options open and Ed won't feel so pinned down.
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Old 12-02-2003, 03:53 PM   #5
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I am all for just doing an album at a time with a little bit of touring, this way they keep their options open and Ed won't feel so pinned down.

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That's true. Ansd Sammy can continue on with the wabos aswell. Everyone's happy.
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:00 PM   #6
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This news was originally posted on the vhml by Paul Belfi and also reported by Diamond DFV at the vhforums where i cut and paste this info from. Just given credit where credit is do. [img]images/smilies/icon_thumb.gif[/img]
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:46 PM   #7
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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


this is the most logical sounding rumor in years... could it be true???... i'm still cautiously skeptical...

let's hope for part time VAN HALEN.... it's far better than NO VAN HALEN!!!

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Old 12-02-2003, 04:49 PM   #8
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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


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this is the most logical sounding rumor in years... could it be true???... i'm still cautiously skeptical...

let's hope for part time VAN HALEN.... it's far better than NO VAN HALEN!!!

...Dave

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i forgot to mention this one at least has many definite names, too... not all that "brother of a sister's friend's aunt who walked the dog of a guy who used to be a roadie" crap we usually get ...
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:04 PM   #9
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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


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this is the most logical sounding rumor in years... could it be true???... i'm still cautiously skeptical...

let's hope for part time VAN HALEN.... it's far better than NO VAN HALEN!!!

...Dave

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Old 12-02-2003, 06:24 PM   #10
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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


hope its true, cause i really need some van halen in my system [img]images/smilies/icon_jam.gif[/img]
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Old 12-02-2003, 07:20 PM   #11
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you know honestly they are my guys but i'm kinda gettin sick of all the rumors already...
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:40 PM   #12
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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


Yeah, me too. I want music not rumours. It's similar to Plant/Page and Led Zeppelin...I will wait for the album to be in the shops, buy it, listen to it and hope that it's as wonderful as 95% of their stuff. I know Ed still has it-I just wanna hear it and not read about the 'maybe's'
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Yeah well, but without the rumours, we've got bugger all, and in this day and age of the internet, we need something to keep us occupied, now don't we... ?

I mean, porn only keeps you occupied for a minute tops doesn't it ? Couple of minutes if you can manage it twice.

Then what else is there to do on t'internet ?

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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


Shit, Ed's had plenty of time to put some non VH material out....
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Old 12-03-2003, 04:30 AM   #15
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Re: The latest on the Sammy rumor.


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you know honestly they are my guys but i'm kinda gettin sick of all the rumors already...

[/ QUOTE ]At least these have been legitimate compared to the last few years....
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