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Old 02-08-2008, 02:25 PM   #1
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Winter Rose - Demos - Live 1988 - 1991 (James LaBrie D.T.)


WINTER ROSE - Before I was dreaming to go to the Theater... - Demos, Live and James LaBrie audition with Dream Theater - 1988/1991

notes from the uploader ! :

Hello! Here is a new series from my collection. After the Master Series, here is the Special Series.
Out of my 6,000+ shows and radio broadcasts, I have many concerts that were special for some reasons: the setlist, the
musicians, the venue or unexpected events. These are the ones I'd like to propose you. Most of these come from my
cassettes collection, so they will be released at a slower pace than my Master Series! But you won't be disappointed!
I will try to gather the most unusual things I have in my collection and, as always, your feedback and comments will be my
reward for all the work involved in this project.

WINTER ROSE
Before I Was Dreaming to go to the Theater... - 1988/1991

Richard Chycki - guitars
Kevin James LaBrie - vocals

I've been a Dream Theater fan since the Images And Words album and first saw them live during their first european tour in
April 1993. This one is a celebration of their lead vocalist James LaBrie who joined the band after being the frontman of
the canadian outfit Winter Rose, which almost signed to Atlantic records at the end of the 80's. They played a kind of AM
rock, a bit different from the prog-metal of Dream Theater.

This is a collection of unreleased material from Winter Rose. I have checked very carefully my sources and compared them with
1) Winter Rose album and 2) Dream Theater Images and Words demos (YtseJam records) and these are definetely different
versions.

A) WINTER ROSE - Selftitled album 5 tracks demos
Toronto, Unknown Studios - 1987
In parenthesis the titles as I have on my tape notes

01.My time (aka My Way)
02.Never let me go (aka Never Let go)
03.I'll never fall in love again
04.Saved by love
05.Get in touch with me (aka In touch)

sound quality: 7/10

Apparently, this was the demos tape that was circulated to get a record deal. The versions differ from the official release
(which are basically a remixed version of the demos, not necessarily these ones!). For example listen to the entry of the
electric guitar on I'll never fall in love again: it is different between the demo and the official release. Plus, the last
track in Touch was not released. Sound quality of this one is not the top.

B) Toronto, Rock 'n' Roll Heaven
23 March 1990 - Q 107 Radio broadcast

06.White thrash
07.I'll never fall in love again
08.My time (to leave you behind)
09.One last time
10.Get in touch with me
11.Saved by love
12.Never let me go
13.Thrill of the night
14.Nothing but the best
15.Diana
16.Rough boys

sound quality: 7+/10
I had two versions of this show but one was labelled 13th March. Then I have compared it to the other source and they are
identical, except that the latter has a better sound quality. LaBrie refers to the show taking place on a friday night,
which was the case on the 23rd. Quite a good quality and James' vocals in excellent shape.

Here is what sebastian Bach said on his website about Winter Rose: "I make a very short but very cool appearance on the
brand new Rush DVD: R30! What an honour it is to be included on a retrospective of the career of one of my favorite bands
of all time. Trivia note: the DVD was produced by my old friend Rich Chycki, who was my guitar player in the mid 1980's in
Toronto. We recorded many songs together, including "Saved By Love Again" which is the song I sent to Skid Row which made
them hire me. After I left the band (which was first called 'Hope' then it was called 'Sebastian') Rich hired a cool singer
from Northern Ontario named Kevin. I remember Rich introducing me to Kevin at one of my soundchecks at Rock'N'Roll Heaven
in Toronto circa mid - '80's. Kevin joined the band with Rich & they changed the name from 'Sebastian' to 'Winter Rose'.
They re-recorded 'Saved By Love Again' & the other songs I did with Rich & eventually released the material in Japan.
Kevin changed his name to James LaBrie & joined Dream Theater! The rest is prog-rock history! Congrats Rich on producing
R30, great job!"

C) New York late 1991 - vocalists auditions: James LaBrie

17.To live forever
18.Learning to live
19.Take the time (fades out)

sound quality: 8/10

These are truly unreleased tracks. In late 1991, Kevin James LaBrie, of glam metal band Winter Rose,
was flown from Canada to New York for an audition. LaBrie jammed on three songs with the band, and was immediately hired
to fill the vocalist position. Once recruited, LaBrie decided to drop his first name to avoid confusion with the other
Kevin in the band. For the next few months, the band returned to playing live shows (still mostly around NYC), while
working on vocal parts for the music written before acquiring LaBrie. ATCO Records (now EastWest), a division of Elektra
Records, signed Dream Theater to a seven album contract based on a three song demo (later made available as "The ATCO Demos"
through the Dream Theater fan club). James sent a tape with some Winter Rose tracks to the band and he was auditioned almost immediately. These are the very first
tracks he recorded with the band. These are NOT the demos contained in the I&W demos album: To Live Forever is not in any
LaBrie version on the cds, while Learning To Live and Take the Time are different from the ATCO 1991 demos.

Enjoy! It took me quite a long time to assembly this collection, I hope you will appreciate it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/90009283...1991.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/90010441...1991.part2.rar

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absolutely fantastic. thank you so much for sharing this. it would be crazy listening to sebastian bach singing saved by love and stuff! thanks again. great great job!
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this is ultra rare item!!!

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thanks buddy! a very good post...
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Thanks for this, man.
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