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I have been having a play with various drum products of late and I thought I could list a few details here.

Smartloops dry kit. I love this and use it all the time. Acid loops and easy to use and all recorded at the same level and settings. most beats are pretty standard and you can build your own with a bit of work using the single hits in acid pro.

Drum Sugar. Similar again to smartloops but played with a bit more variation. the only downside is some of the wavs sound like there were recorded using different settings and make matching sounds a little difficult - although I doubt that would notice in a final mix.

Native Instruments Battery. this is a VSTi/DXi plugin and it is excellent for making midi drums sound more solid. it is fully velocity sensitive and sounds really good. I have had some odd results on certain drum tracks but overall it is pretty solid.

Steinberg Groove Agent. a VSTi Plugin that automatically generates beats in many different styles. many aspects are fully changeable and it is very flexible. My only gripe is I don't like the sounds as they don't seem as sharp as the ones mentioned above.

I also had a play with Soundfonts (http://www.hammersound.net/) and there are some pretty good ones here but none really compare to the stuff mentioned above.

Hope this is of some use to someone and if you already knew this sorry to waste your time
 

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Kick-ass post, GoPort. My friend and I have been discussing this topic a lot lately, as we are both looking for a top notch drum resource for composing/recording, but we are both a bit overwhelmed with not knowing where to start looking. Thanks a lot for this information. I shall pass it along to him as well. Posts like this are part of what makes this site so awesome for recording musicians.
 

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Those are all good resources, and I've used quite a few before I discovered Drumkit from Hell Superior by Tunetrack. It takes a little more work to create something since you aren't starting with loops, but the results are spectacular. To give you an idea on just how detailed the drum sounds are, the installation media is 4 double sided DVDs, or 38GB!

Drumkit From Hell Superior: http://www.toontrack.com/superior.shtml

Sample track I did using it:
http://coolez.net/ufb-eric.mp3

Eric
 

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I was given a copy of that but for some reason cubase sx 2 didn't like it at all. wierd.

Cool track. and nice decay on the cymbals
 

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whoops it was the original DFH - not the superior version.
 

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I also have the original version but I know nothing about using samplers. It sux cause I love how the samples sound. There's so many and I don't know what the heck i'm doing
 

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Pod - Acid Pro is the way to go with samples (or any other acid compatible program). this allows you to draw in the drums very easily and acidised samples have variable tempos without the pitch changing.
 

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Sounds really great coolez. I have been looking at BFD drums. I hate programming my machine, but I like the end results.

How hard is it to program Drumkit from hell from scratch?

Do you know of any place to get it for less than $300?
 

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VHfan,

It's not difficult to program once you get the hang of it. You're basically programming each and every MIDI note, so it helps to have a good tool to help you such as Cubase or Sonar. Drumkit form Hell is just a sample library for the MIDI. But once you get used to it, there is no end to what you can create. And it sounds real. I've fooled some drummers with it.

As for the price; it's worth it. You might be able to find it cheaper on eBay, I've seen it being sold there a while ago.

Eric
 

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to my limited knowledge there are no really decent free drum packages.

I would suggest getting a midi sequencer package (http://www.digitalsoundplanet.com/SoftwareHouse/Products/Audio_Master/Freeware/freeware.phtml) and also get a copy of synthfont (http://www.synthfont.com/)

Make your drum tracks (and basslines whatever) in the midi editor and save the file and then use synthfont to beef up the sounds.

You will need a soundfont/synthfont compatible sound card ie soundblaster or similar. You will also need a shitload of soundfonts - http://www.hammersound.net/cgi-bin/soundlink.pl

also check out the creating backing track thread by podgod - that has some invaluable information on it http://www.guitars101.com/boards/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/88663/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1

I did find some standalone packages but that seemed to be aimed at techo/hiphop/D&B sort of stuff.
 

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I have Drums On Demand Vol 1& 2. Its studio recorded drum loops at different tempos. I like it but you have to build your song from the drums instead of hearing a pattern in your head and making it. Vol 1 does have single hits and I put them in my Reason Adapted ReDrum. Sounds great. I only wish I had bought the vol 3 since it has many more single hits to work with.
 
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