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it's used for sticking in effects pedals etc. instead of putting them in between the guitar and amp
people use it because it apparantely reduces any background noise/hum and overall improving the effect - this is because the electronic signal is far stronger than just putting it between the guitar and amp, and you need less lead length
it oughta be pretty effective considering they spent money putting it in
or at least that's what i read off www.GOOGLE.com!
 

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the effect loop normally is after the preamp. It sends a signal only to the power section of the amp avoiding any unwanted gain and colorations. The one pictured i would asssume by the controls is a parallel loop allowing control of the send and return signals. This lets you mix how much of the loop signal is mixed with the original signal being sent through the amp. This is sending a preamped signal out to your loop through whatever device in the loop and back to the power section of the amp while at the same time sending the original non processed signal through amp.
A normal set up is Guitar > wah> input of amp> loop send > effects(processor)>loop return.
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wow.... thanks guitaristic and Vintage Brat....your clear explanations have enlighten me...so i can just plug directly into my amp and have all the fx going through the loop with a cleaner and purer effect being its after the preamp...i think i got it...very cool...thanks again..you guys rule :thumb
 

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I've never really used the effects loop on my amp before. But from what i gather, time based effects should be run through the loop (eg. chorus, delay etc.) while other effects (distortions) should go between the amp and guitar.
 

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I thought about using the effects loop on my 5150II but there doesn't seem to be a way to control the volume !

why would they not have a volume control on it ?
 

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If I remember right Stig, the 5150II is a series loop only. relying on the level of whatever is in the loop to set the value of the signal. The ones with a volume or level control are the parallel loop that allows for adjustment of the mix.If your processor or whatever you have in the loop has an active real time expression pedal.(volume pedal) you can control the overall signal with that.
Hope this helps ya Stig.
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Interesting conversation here guys. I'm also new to using the effects loop, so I'm taking note to what you guys are saying. I'm running my V-amp pro thru the effects loop, but I don't really care for the flange and phaser in the unit. So I'm planning on running my Boss Flange, and MXR Phase thru the loop as well, but wasn't sure how I should set it up. Since the V-amp is already in the loop, should I just put the Flange and Phaser in front of it, and continue to plug my guitar straight into the V-amp and play?
 

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Chris , I would try it both ways, with the flange and phase before and after the V-AMP. if your using the V-AMP 's gain or distortion fx I would put the phase and flange after to keep a truer signal. Usually a distorted phased and or flanged signal is a bit odd sounding. where as a phased and or flanged distorted signal is more pleasing.
What is commonly considered a normal chain using an effects loop is
Guitar--> volume-->wha--> distortion or preamp-->[amp]-->
[fx send] -->flange-->phase--> (chorus, harmonizer,doubler)-->delay --> [fx return].

In your case Chris where your using only the power amp section of your amp.
Guitar--> VAMP--> flange--> phase--> fx return.

You can remove any of those you dont use or need . This isnt written in stone its just what is considered common
 

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Ok, I'll have to give this a try when I get in. Thanks for the advice VB :icon_thum
 

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I wish I had better luck with the effects loop on my Crate 120w stack. I tried running my pedals, chorus, delay, & noise gate through it and oh my god the hum was worse than it is just going between my guitar and amp! What could I be doing wrong? The instruction book for my crate told me which way to hook it up but it sounded terrible.

Any ideas? Thanks
Good post!
 

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Riff Addict said:
I wish I had better luck with the effects loop on my Crate 120w stack. I tried running my pedals, chorus, delay, & noise gate through it and oh my god the hum was worse than it is just going between my guitar and amp! What could I be doing wrong? The instruction book for my crate told me which way to hook it up but it sounded terrible.

Any ideas? Thanks
Good post!
Riff, if you aren't using your effects with batteries, try that. Sometimes a poorly filtered wall wart will cause nasty hum. If that doesn't help, try one effect at a time to see if one is causing the noise. also try different patch cables.
 

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Riff, if you aren't using your effects with batteries, try that. Sometimes a poorly filtered wall wart will cause nasty hum. If that doesn't help, try one effect at a time to see if one is causing the noise. also try different patch cables.
Try with batteries? Ok, I use AC adapters because batteries have such a short life span in pedals. I never thought of hooking up one pedal at a time to rule out one that could be causing the hum...thanks for the advice.
 

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Yip, Riff, try with batteries. Many times the adapters are poorly filtered. This can cause a very nasty hum in your signal. If your effects have no hum with batteries, you then know that your problem exists due to the power adapter(s).
 
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