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The best thing to do (in my opinion)

is start with the pentatonic or blues scale .. and master that first ..

i think the main problem is people don't master these things before moving on ...

when you want to move on you can add 1 or 2 notes to these scales and form the modes but that comes later on ...

learn the basic pentatonic/blues scales .. and try and learn some really simple blues licks off records of clapton/srv/ etc .. maynot be the style your looking for but it's a great place to start

hope that helps ...
 

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rjmjajrj said:
Thanks guys. I didn't mean to pigeon hole a certain style. I would love to learn some blues scales. It gets to be somewaht confusing in what scale to choose to start with. Thanks for your input guys.

Stiglar is absolutely right.
There's tons to do just with the pentatonic scale.
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I agree with Stiglar pentatonic and blues are the most versatile for rock music. You can almost throw a pentatonic in any song and make it sound good.
 

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I actually disagree with the common notion that people should learn pentatonics first. What happens is they miss out on the basic concept of playing in a major or minor key signature, they get so used to playing only 5 notes instead of 7. My personal suggestion would be to learn the major and minor scale first. Then from there, learn all of its modes. I dont like teachers who teach people pent first - many students never grow out of it. This breeds the whole slew of people that have been playing for 3 or 4 years and say "im stuck in pent box shapes". But it's not just about scales, its about how to use scales over a given chord progression. One should learn how to fit chords with chord-tones or chord-scales. Note: You can do alot more with normal scales and modes over a chord progression then you can with only 2 types of pents.
 

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I actually disagree with the common notion that people should learn pentatonics first. What happens is they miss out on the basic concept of playing in a major or minor key signature, they get so used to playing only 5 notes instead of 7. My personal suggestion would be to learn the major and minor scale first. Then from there, learn all of its modes. I dont like teachers who teach people pent first - many students never grow out of it. This breeds the whole slew of people that have been playing for 3 or 4 years and say "im stuck in pent box shapes". But it's not just about scales, its about how to use scales over a given chord progression. One should learn how to fit chords with chord-tones or chord-scales. Note: You can do alot more with normal scales and modes over a chord progression then you can with only 2 types of pents.
True too. But we're trying to not scare the newb off! :lol:
 

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After studing music theory for 2 years I would have to say that learning the major (Ionian) scale and the 3 minor scales (natural, melodic, harmonic) is job one, since 90% of pop music uses these scales. If you can learn these scales all of the modes, penta scales, whole tone scales, etc... become very easy to understand and use in an effective manner.
I would definatly study the major and minor scales 1st. But... always do what sounds interesting and fun rather than what people tell you to do.
 

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Im just a beginner

I think ya are suposed to learn C major first and r w w h w w w r .Root Whole Whole Half Whole Whole Whole Root.
From my understanding once you know that in A - A# - B -C - C# - D - D# - E - F - F# - G - G# .Then you know all the major scales in the first mode.Then it is easy to change it to a minor,pentatonic,or full chords using simple formulas.
This may be to novice for this thred.
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