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Pink Floyd 1970-11-28, Saarbrucken, West Germany [SBD]
Pictures of Pink Floyd (orig press)

Soundboard

setlist:

1. The Libest Spacement Monitor
2. Fat Old Sun
3. Second Cud (**)
4. Atom Heart Mother - reprise (**)
5. Green Is The Colour
6. A Saucerful Of Secrets
7. Atom Heart Mother


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Before I download this, I should ask if this is really soundboard material. This uploader has been known to misrepresent material.
 

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There isn't. I'm afraid it isn't a soundboard but it is a wonderful show in good enjoyable sound quality. Worth it for the first track alone! Tracks 3 and 4 appear to be bits of another show that somehow got mixed up into this one but don't let that put you off. Strongly recommended and a show that is particularly hard to track down elsewhere on the net. Thank you Locoporweb!
 

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Found out a bit more about this if anyone's interested. It appears that for a number of years the tracks from this Saarbrucken gig were wrongly attributed to Gothenburg 11-11-70. Listening to them side by side, they are obviously different gigs and not just 2 different audience sources of the same show. For instance, on the Saarbrucken tape Roger complains about an annoying echo before Atom Heart Mother, which is not to be found on the Gothenburg tape. All the songs and between-song chats are different and, furthermore, this Saarbrucken definitely has the superior sound quality!
 

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In the last few days this nincompoop has again posted a number of audience recordings and deliberately mislabeled them as soundboards.

People shouldn't be thanking him for purposely wasting their time.
 

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There isn't. I'm afraid it isn't a soundboard but it is a wonderful show in good enjoyable sound quality. Worth it for the first track alone! Tracks 3 and 4 appear to be bits of another show that somehow got mixed up into this one but don't let that put you off. Strongly recommended and a show that is particularly hard to track down elsewhere on the net. Thank you Locoporweb!
You must be this guy's mother...

The first track is actually Astronomy Domine and there's nothing especially amazing about it.

This isn't a hard show to track down and it's easily available in a more complete version and in better quality elsewhere.
 

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Bit more info: the first track has a strange history. It's not Astronomy Domine. For years it was indeed known as Libest Spacement Monitor but was later named Corrosion of which there are 3 known performances. Of the 3, this is the one in 2nd best quality and is the better of the 2 versions which segue in The Embryo. The Gothenburg bootleg I referred to above does have Astronomy Domine as its first track but this Saarbrucken gig is something quite different and a bit of a personal favourite. I had a bit of it on CD back in the 90s on a compilation called Stranger Than Fiction which was a great little comp but wasn't the best transfer from vinyl. This version is quite a nice new vinyl transfer from the original 2LP 'Pictures Of Pink Floyd' made by the chap who has written the info text file (not Locoporweb). He's also managed to do quite a good job of fixing the horrendous speed issues on the 4th vinyl side. It's finally listenable and better than a previous attempt made in an earlier transfer from a few years ago. I'm not exactly sure how the twp Offenburg 26-2-71 tracks ended up on the LP but bootleggers used to do that quite a lot years ago. I assume it was purely to fill up a side of vinyl because not enough of the Saarbrucken gig had been recorded to fill 4 sides. If anyone has any evidence that more of the Saarbrucken gig was recorded and exists I would love to know as it sounds great. The Gothenburg 11-11-70 is pretty much complete and it is frustrating that people/websites still get them mixed up - including setlist.fm and a few Pink Floyd RoIO sites.
And yes, it is also extremely frustrating that Locoporweb continues to mislabel audience recordings as soundboards as I keep getting excited by what he posts and then extremely disappointed 10 seconds later!
Hope that helps people in distinguishing the two gigs. I can still recommend this upload as a worthwhile listen, even if you're not a fan of audience recordings or mislabelled sources.
 

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This might help or not, whichever the case may be;

Pictures of Pink Floyd Restoration Project
originally released by Doinker
speed correction by blokhead

Doinker's FLACs > WAV > SC > WAV > FLAC

The entire album was running slightly fast. Then of course there were the
really bad speed problems in Atom Heart Mother. This track needed special
attention. I'm quite pleased with the results.

blokhead

The "Pictures Of Pink Floyd" Restoration Project

This is IMO the most special Pink Floyd concert experience ever recorded. The quality and rarity of "The Librest Spacement Monitor" justifies all the hype, and at last you can hear it in the best possible manner.

First of all, something for you to consider:

This was a cooperative effort, requiring the talents and input of several people of different nationalities. The material presented is of sufficient rarity to warrant the following statements:

Don't even THINK of auctioning or selling this material for your own monetary gain. Internet auctions will be monitored both in Europe and in the United States. We'll know what to do about that if it happens, the rest is up to you. The message is clear and simple: It's free, keep it that way, we mean what we say. And... don't shoot the messenger.

It is strongly recommended that you keep all the files intact when trading this material to other groups. Feel free to add your own comments.

Please do not encode to lossy sources when trading this material.

Lastly, a great thank you to Mr. (Herr) Peter D., who brought the albums across the Atlantic and back, made it both ways with both his sanity and his records intact, and who has granted me permission to post this material on his behalf. Also thanks to K.F. and E.D. for tea and sympathy.

Technical Data:

Records were played on a Technics Sl-1200MK2 turntable, using a Layla 3G console directly into a Dell computer. There was no sound card used during the recording process (the Layla generates a virtual card). Music recording was directly processed by Sound Forge 6.0. Too much high-quality percussion existed within the recordings to use a vinyl restoration suite. A digital spot remover was used manually to remove the larger clicks and crackles, then an automatic remover was used afterwards. Results were real-time compared with the raw wav file, both by monitoring from the computer, and by auditioning a test-pressing on a home-theatre system. Unfortunately, there was a major flaw found in the vinyl on side one at around the 5:15 mark. That was 'jiggled' as much as possible after rerecording the entire side and starting over.

Side Four (Pictures Vol 2, Side Two) presented special problems. As is generally known, the recording of Atom Hear Mother starts out fine, but gradually gets faster and faster. A map was made by consensus, of the many pitch changes relative to the beginning of the piece. Unfortunately, it isn't just a linear speed change, where it would be easy to "just slow it down". The pitch of known musical interludes was manually compared and adjusted via the Sound Forge "pitch bend" and "pitch shift" functions. It quickly got confusing and very complicated to do all the changes relative to one another, and about 15 seconds could not be totally corrected. After a while, keeping any adherance to any form of zero crossing had to be discarded. This is because the pitch shift did not always occur during a zero crossing, and nothing could be done about it. Sometimes you will hear a zero-crossing noise during the speed corrections. The end product is not perfect, no one involved was totally happy with it. To do better would have required starting over again, and it might not be any better after finishing. It is listenable to, however and is a major improvement over the original recording. The very slight pitch change of the end relative to the beginning of Atom Heart Mother may be part of the original performance. This is a different version of this song than the version on Volume 1!

For you sticklers about original recordings, the original untouched fourth side is presented as track four

A small amount of noise reduction was used on all record sides. Fortunately, the lowest level of the sound recording is way above the lowest level of surface noise. A sample was made of "dead space", both before and after the recording. The lower volume level was used to remove noise. No EQ of any sort was used.

Finally, the end results were approved by consensus.

Now, on to the Music!

Play this music as loud as possible! To hell with the neighbors! During the "Embryo" portion, I want to see your cat explode!

:-D

At a minimum, the announcer's voice should be audible over any ambient room noise.

There has been some lively discussion about what the announcer is saying in the beginning of The Librest Spacement Monitor. He is actually introducing one "Nicholas Mason".

What IS "The Librest Spacement Monitor?" It's not a different version of "The Embryo", it is a seperate, unique piece all on its own. Whether that was planned, or improvised on the spot is not part of the equation. How is that possible? Artists often incorporate pieces of their existing songs into new projects. Pink Floyd is no exception. If you have ever heard "The Man" or "The Journey", you know that song titles have been changed and portions put into other pieces. Need an example? OK - "The Violent Sequence" became "Us and Them".

The other titles are also rather interesting. Everybody seems to be singing in tune, even Roger seems to be enjoying himself.

Setlist:

PICTURES 1
01. The Librest Spacement Monitor [21:16]
02. Fat Old Sun [13:29]
03. Blues [6:13]
04. Atom Heart Mother - excerpt [3:02]

PICTURES 2
01. Green Is The Colour [3:52]
02. A Saucerful Of Secrets [17:48]
03. Atom Heart Mother (altered) [19:03]
04. Atom Heart Mother (original) [15:16]

Please post comments, we would all like to hear them. By the request of Mr. (Herr) D., no artwork is available. Please check the many available Pink Floyd ROIO sites for artwork.

Lastly, we don't know any better than you do where some of this material was recorded. Where do you think? We would like to know. Marbal's Offenbach torrent solved some of the date questions, but not all.

Engineered by Doinker in his "studio" from the original vinyl, all subsequent actions done in a group meeting with other crazy people during the week of March 6, 2006.

Enjoy! Don't forget, selling has consequences you don't want to deal with!

A DoinkerTape
 

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And cheers, Breadfan, for the extra info.
Locoporweb - come on, dude! Stop risking getting a ban. Your uploads are great recordings - just check them first.

Twenty Small Cigars - you helpfully checked some Zep dates for me sometime last year so I know you mean well. Perhaps this discussion will give Locoporweb the nudge he needs.
 
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