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You asked about my bass playing. Here is a track I did last month that I never got round to fininshing, Much of it is one take stuff but I really only did it for a vehicle for bass playing. The solo is pure one take warts and all. Hope you enjoy, I went for a bit of Geddy styled fills at the end. No vocals because I didn't come up with a decent melody.
 

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Can't wait to hear it when ya come up with a vocal line for it. :woot: The guitar and bass work is really good!!!:jam: I know this will turn into another Goport hit!!!!:icon_thum
 

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Very catchy stuff Goport, even without a main vocal melody yet! Dug the bass and the funky/wah section too :icon_thum
 

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Very melodic , i like the way the fade in works every now and again , Bass sounds very competant , warm fat and a million light years better than midi . The acoustics sound equally lush , also this sounds like dolby 5.1 in my headphones , wonderfull separation here . there used to be this saying where a lead player makes a bad bass player :scratch: , something to do with proper bass players follow kick drums and percussion , a line of thought which ive never agreed with , and this track proves it , spendid playing all round goport ! :icon_thum
 

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Thank you sgstd, Mondola, Ender :bowdown: , Mike4beka, Rhythameen and Bluesplayer. This is not even a mix to be honest. drums are completely untreated and most of the guitar parts are one takers. I just got bored of it really quickly and haven't thought about doing anything more with it. It was only that KC had reminded me that I haven't posted bugger all lately, so I quickly mixed this down to mp3. I'm glad you all think it is ok though. It means a lot and maybe I should take a fresh look at it. The thing I am really happy with is the little hammond sound thing I did on guitar - I just hit record and didn't know what the hell I weas going to play on those bits and it came off really loose and worked imo.

Cheers fellas :)
 

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Fantastic, Goport! That little "swoosh" sound transition is really creative and effective. I am starting to think that you are too hard on yourself with your finger style bass playing, perhaps because you probably know your own struggles while practicing in private, but you pulled off this quite well and I heard pretty much zero flubs. I agree with Art about the lead player vs. bass player topic, in that you do not sit back and just be a backbone to the song with the bass line, but actually add some strong melodies to the flow.

Holy sweet wah-wah! And funky pop bass. And no need to rework the lead (just heard a Geddy Lee break in the middle and tail end of the solo). you've got small samples of Rush peppered throughout. over all, I catch more of a Crowded House vibe from this but with some Rush in there too. Interesting combination. Lots of variety in feel/energy/dynamics between the parts. An enjoyable tune from start to finish!
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Thanks KC. The "Swoosh" is a backwards cymbal, I think there may even be a backwards A chord there too. The change from A to G#7 is a difficult one to make without relying on gimmicks - So I went for the gimmicks :)

As for the bass playing, I went for something melodic on this one because I thought I could get away with it. I like bass to be locked in with the drums and the melody comes second. I have been programming bass lines for long enough now to know what I should be playing but I have a fair way to get there yet. I'd like to think that I was already thinking like a bass player when I was doing the bass in midi. The only difference is now I have to play like one :lol:

I think bluesplayer was getting at the guitarist on bass mentality - you know the thing, he picks up a bass and tries to playing a guitar solo and completely misses the rudiments. Such as locking down on the bass drum and snare. But soloing on bass is a difficult thing to pull off. Geddy Lee, Jeff Berlin, Pino Palladino, Mick Karn, Stu Hamm etc can do it but never at the expense of losing the groove. The guitarist on bass isn't aware of the groove in the first place. At least that is what I think BP was getting at. Like him I don't agree that a guitarist on bass has to be a bad player, providing he adopts the role of the bass.

Anyway, thanks for checking out my progress Jeff :thumb:
 

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Thanks KC. The "Swoosh" is a backwards cymbal, I think there may even be a backwards A chord there too. The change from A to G#7 is a difficult one to make without relying on gimmicks - So I went for the gimmicks :)

As for the bass playing, I went for something melodic on this one because I thought I could get away with it. I like bass to be locked in with the drums and the melody comes second. I have been programming bass lines for long enough now to know what I should be playing but I have a fair way to get there yet. I'd like to think that I was already thinking like a bass player when I was doing the bass in midi. The only difference is now I have to play like one :lol:

I think bluesplayer was getting at the guitarist on bass mentality - you know the thing, he picks up a bass and tries to playing a guitar solo and completely misses the rudiments. Such as locking down on the bass drum and snare. But soloing on bass is a difficult thing to pull off. Geddy Lee, Jeff Berlin, Pino Palladino, Mick Karn, Stu Hamm etc can do it but never at the expense of losing the groove. The guitarist on bass isn't aware of the groove in the first place. At least that is what I think BP was getting at. Like him I don't agree that a guitarist on bass has to be a bad player, providing he adopts the role of the bass.

Anyway, thanks for checking out my progress Jeff :thumb:
Thats exactly what i was trying to say Goport , thanks for making it clear :icon_thum
Incidently a certain Ritchie Blackmore played nearly all the bass on the Long Live Rockn Roll album , the album was a classic ! , and poor old ynwvie :scratch: malmsteen tried it on a couple of his albums with very limited success , in fact i think when a bass player hits a hundred mph , it gets a bit stupid , i think theres a definate limit , in fact you could argue "less really is more "
 

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Thats exactly what i was trying to say Goport , thanks for making it clear :icon_thum
I understood what you guys were talking about. That's what I was trying to communicate as well. :thumbup:
 

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yeah - but you missed the bit where you said I was shit :lol: ;)
 

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lol - I had too much to drink last night :)
 

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aye, true that :lol:
 

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Goport said:
..... locking down on the bass drum and snare. But soloing on bass is a difficult thing to pull off. Geddy Lee, Jeff Berlin, Pino Palladino, Mick Karn, Stu Hamm etc can do it but never at the expense of losing the groove. The guitarist on bass isn't aware of the groove in the first place. At least that is what I think BP was getting at. Like him I don't agree that a guitarist on bass has to be a bad player, providing he adopts the role of the bass./QUOTE]

Great post Goport! I was curious how the bass was coming along. I'm glad you mentioned this (the quote) because I was about to launch into a long winded lecture:toothless. Once I saw Mick Karn play the bass, I forgot all about the guitar. What a demon he was teemed up with Steve Janson of Japan! On a side note: Any Sylvian fans here?
 

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I always had a lot of respect for japan (but that was mainly due to Mick Karn) Sylvian is ok in my book. Any guy who gets respect from Fripp is ok in my book :lol:

Thanks for the reply Strat, and man I can't believe I missed out Jaco Pastorious D'oh!!
 

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Loved the track Porty, cool playing on all parts.
I'll look forward to the finished tune :D
 
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