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Anyone here useing a Vox Tonelab SE ? If so can you tell me the pros and cons ? Is it better than a podxt? Thanks in advance for any info shared. :grin:
 

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Anyone here useing a Vox Tonelab SE ? If so can you tell me the pros and cons ? Is it better than a podxt? Thanks in advance for any info shared. :grin:
Hi,

never dealt with this unit but I have read somewhere that it's great for clean and crunch tones, POD XT (with model packs) is better for high gain tones.

Tonelab SE lacks USB connectivity and for some reason it's not so popular (which doesn't mean it's bad). The Vox site gives only basic info with just few samples which sound nice though.

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i got one....
i think its great (after spending £300 on it i should hope its great!!!).
the tape echo effect is the best ive heard, and you can get a perfect hank marvin tone if you try.

the distortion patches aint bad, got a great recto patch, and i got a great slash setting, and its not as popular as the pod so i liked it that i was not one of many that had it, giving my sound slightly differernt.

also, the pod xt isnt that useable on stage unless you buy the floor board for it. which is just a small gripe.

the tone lab is easy to use, and you can get alot out of it if used right. im a big u2 fan an have a great edge patches.

if you want some sound bites, just ask... and i can send some.
heres a few songs i posted that i used my own patches to record with just useing a tonelab - pc conection.

free - all right now - http://www.guitars101.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9197

bon jovi - livin on a prayer - http://www.guitars101.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=9302
 

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Thanks Vyse,

All right now sounds cool. It would sound better if you recorded both channells with guitar ;) . If you have more bit sounds please give us more. Especially some sounds with just pure guitar i.e. without backing track. I am surprised that Vox provides so few samples on the website.

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Tomek
 

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Sounds nice, very natural, close to real tube (obviously there is a tube in preamp.. :). Thanks a lot, that gives better idea of what sounds you can get out of this unit.

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Tomek :bannana_g
 

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no prob, any time.

i love the AC30 emulation on it, that sounds great, alot like the real thing.
good luck with chooseing what one you want, glad i could help.
 

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I picked up a TLSE last Monday. Replaced the tube with a Groove Tube 12AX7M (mullard) and it improved the low end and breakup (smoother/thicker).

Running it through an Alesis SUMO 100 Keyboard amp with very good results.

I have yet to do some recording with it (will mic the keyboard amp most likely). Have a lot of gig-ish stuff going this weekend. We'll see how it does!

Overall I like it a lot so far. There are lots of downloadable patches (install via MIDI) on the net - found some pretty good ones.

I'll try to remember to post how it performed for the gigs.

Anyway - just fyi.
~A~
 

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where do you get the patches from? ive been looking for some.
is it easy to replace the tube, ive been looking into that, an would like to hear what yours sounds like with a different tube
 

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ToneLab SE resources:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=656353
http://patchtronix.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ToneLab
http://support.bluecrystalsoftware.com/patches/ToneLab/
http://www.bangroom.de/tonelab/forum/index.phphttp://javascript<img src="http://w...://www.bangroom.de/tonelab/forum/index.php');

You should be able to find a TON of stuff through those areas.

Changing the tube is a pain in the butt. It is covered on one of those sites/forums.

I just got back from a casual jam session and the TLSE/SUMO combo kept up just fine with the Marshall half stacks (JCM2000 and JTM45 each with 4x12 cabs). Sounded just as good and was WAY more flexible than their rigs! I was pleasantly surprised.

Tomorrow is another big jam thing - stay tuned!
~A~
 

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Welp the TLSE/SUMO combo worked GREAT at the gigs last weekend! Sounded wonderful and was able to keep up with the Marshalls, Peavey's and homebrew amps. A few guys now have a new case of GAS for one! :D

I'm having a bit of a time with getting a "good" variety of lively tones... I'll post that in a new thread though.
~A~
 

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Vox Tonelab

I play since 1 year with a TL and a VC4 foot contoler on a Fender hotrod deluxe.
I've tryed last week the Pod and i definityvely prefer the TL for the clean and warmer sounds and also for programing like a tube amp.
a little blues Bm record here made with the TL plugged directly in my computer
Alain
 

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how does people expect to understand and even compare or evaluate cabinet or amplifier simulations on a multifx, since they have no idea what the original sounds like ???

that's my question :doh:
 

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Well... hank marvin originaly played a strat though a ac 30 with a tape echo of some sort...

with the Vox AC30 amp model selected and the gain/EQ tweeked and a echo setting added... i have more or less got a great tone of his on my strat which is highly compairable to the original recordings.

so find out what amps your "heros" play on, and chances are a emulator will come close to it.

got a great "Slash" tone with a overdrived marshall + a boss DS1 selected on the vox +reverb an quick delay, sounds autentic with my les paul + seymore duncan pups.
 

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Line 6 POd Xt Live user converted to VOX Tonelab SE!!

Ok, here is the short version on my story. I searched the internet and played several modeling floor boards the past 6 months. I gave up using my analog pedals finally and thought I found the perfect solution. th ePOD XT live was incredible at first and sounded great in the store and in my home studio! Ok, back to the main reason I bought this unit...to play LIVE. I wanted control and tone playing play and recording was not a priority. So , i gigged with the Xt live and totaly HATED it! in fact I unplugged the connections during the set and went straight into my mesa boogie rocket 44. Much better sound. the problem was the POD produced lots of sounds but they were digital sounding and not warm at all. So here I am without any gigging pedals and a piece of shit Pod! Ok , I decide to seel the POD on ebay (Got my money back!) and look at amps. I looked at the Fender, Marshall , line 6 ....themn the VOX! WOW the VOX sounded great but I really liked my Mesa tube amp so I went home and thought about it while reviewing their catalog. Them I come across this floorboard called the ToneLab se...Ok, another digital thing but wait...it was a tube pre-amp?? Ok, I go to the store and it sounds sweet. So I take it home and after 5 hours of playng this thing I can;t find a bad tome. I mean this thing rocks and sounds so warm and sweet. Did I miss something in my search for a floorboard? Them I see it's all over the internet and people are praising the thing....Iknow I made the right choice now and if you have a chance to buy one or even play one for a while you will not be disappointed....

My vote goes to the VOX Tonelab SE -----AWESOME !!:jam:
 

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Hello everyone.
This is my first post while i'm discovering this marvellous site.
I'm about to buy a multi-effect, hesitating between pod xt and vox SE.
I tried both in music store. it's true the SE got a warmer sound, and the Pod more destroyed, versatile but factice sounding sets.
I read many opinions saying that SE is mluch better to play lives.
I'll buy the SE, certainly.
Thank you for having shared home made samples, it helped me a lot.
Just a thing : the lamp is not in the pre-amp system but at the output (sure of that). But it really offers a way to give a better sound.

Sorry for my english, i'm french ;)
 

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Tonix said:
Hello everyone.
This is my first post while i'm discovering this marvellous site.
I'm about to buy a multi-effect, hesitating between pod xt and vox SE.
I tried both in music store. it's true the SE got a warmer sound, and the Pod more destroyed, versatile but factice sounding sets.
I read many opinions saying that SE is mluch better to play lives.
I'll buy the SE, certainly.
Thank you for having shared home made samples, it helped me a lot.
Just a thing : the lamp is not in the pre-amp system but at the output (sure of that). But it really offers a way to give a better sound.

Sorry for my english, i'm french ;)

Just my two cents worth too. This is my very first post here and I really like this site. I went to guitar center today and tried both the SE and XT live. I tried both on a marshall amp in the clean channel and also both on headphones.
I know one cannot make a decision on any on a one hour test, but one thing jumped out clearly on all my testing. The SE definitely had more AIR to it. No question about it. Its hard to put it in mere words, but there were times when I literally felt like I had the amp right there. Of course, when I was testing it on the headphones.

It was truly amazing to feel that. I closed my eyes and concentrated and no matter how many times I went back and forth from the XT live to the SE, the SE gave me the same feeling. I felt the Tube come alive in some patches, and somehow the feeling of ambience or air if you will, was there.

I personally own the Genesis 3, and to be honest, I am kind of dissapointed that Line 6 didnt have that feel. I wanted it to not be true because the price of the SE is so much higher, but then the more I played both, I realized that I might just end up staying with my digitech Genesis 3 for now. I have it hooked up to an ART DPS Tube Pre and it sounds hot, but I wanted something on the floor. If I find the SE at a steal price, I might just go for that one. I love it, and it truly gave me goozebumps, when I felt that openess I guess only a true tube could produce.

Anyways, I felt like posting this here as I knew that if I posted it as a new thread I was going to get burned as a newbee, but having played for 24 years, I feel, my ears are pretty much well trained and I can definietely say, the SE, rocks for true tube sounds.....

Regards,

Musikman :jam:
 
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